Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent
2 for 1 tickets to Casablanca, this coming Monday
Tens of thousands of cars will become almost worthless as a result of the decision to raise road tax on older models with higher carbon dioxide emissions by up to £245 a year.
Many families will find that they cannot sell their cars even though they are in good working order and no more than seven years old.
The Times revealed yesterday that the Treasury had quietly abolished the exemption from higher road-tax rates for cars that emit more than 225g of CO2 per km and were registered between March 2001 and March 2006.
CAP, which supplies the used car industry with data on residual values, said that many larger cars would be reduced to their scrap value because they would fall into one of the higher tax brackets being introduced for high-emission cars next April.
A Hyundai Lantra 1.6GSI automatic, registered in 2001, is listed as having a trade value of £850. But under the rules buried in the small print of last month’s Budget, its road tax will increase from £210 this year to £300 next year and £430 in 2010.
CAP estimated that the road tax increase would cut 20 per cent, or £1,000, off the value of a 2001 Renault Espace 2LT Privilege people carrier.
Mark Norman, CAP’s development manager, said: “When people find out that it could cost half a car’s value just to tax it each year, its value will plummet. Many of these cars, particularly saloons, will be reduced to their scrap value. The sad thing is that perfectly usable cars will be scrapped, which could perversely increase overall CO2 because of the emissions from manufacturing new cars.”
He said that the changes to vehicle excise duty would hurt most those who were least able to afford it. “Poorer families who need a bigger car to transport children and luggage will find their car has lost up to £1,000 of its value. They face an impossible choice because many will struggle to pay the higher road tax but won’t be able to afford to buy a more fuel-effi-cient car with a lower road-tax rating.”
The new higher road tax will particularly penalise drivers who have fuel-hungry cars but do low mileage.
Adrian Rushmore, managing editor of Glass’s used car guide, said it would add to the impact that high fuel prices were having on residual values. “Fuel costs have increased by 25 per cent since January last year and higher road tax will help accelerate the trend towards faster depreciation for less fuel efficient models. The motor trade needs to tell people thinking of buying one of these cars that they will face a big hike in road tax from next year. That may influence their decision.”
He said that fuel-hungry cars were depreciating faster than more efficient models. The average three-year-old car last month was worth £600 less than the average three-year-old car in April last year. But for cars with CO2 emissions of more than 225g/km, the difference was £2,000.
Cars registered before March 1, 2001, will continue to be exempt from the higher road-tax rates. Many of these cars will become more valuable than similar models that are younger and have done fewer miles but are liable for double the road tax.
The Treasury admitted yesterday that it had failed to make the tax changes clear in the Budget. A spokeswoman said: “It’s not as clear in the Budget as it could be. It’s not explicitly spelt out.”
Justine Greening, the Conservative Treasury spokeswoman, said: “This is duplicity from the Treasury who deliberately failed to make any mention of this tax grab at the time of the Budget. Last year Gordon Brown promised not to backdate the CO2 charge on family cars to before 2006 and now he’s broken yet another promise.
“This hits tens of thousands of drivers and the worst hit are low-income families who can’t afford to change cars regularly. These are people driving family cars, often bought secondhand, with 80,000 miles on the clock. Alistair Darling said that the Budget would leave a typical family earning £28,000, with two children, £130 a year better off, but many will be paying an extra £220 in extra vehicle excise duty because of these changes.”
Before they increasing the road-tax, the government should improve the state of public transport service. But many people live in rural area, far away from the woking places. It is not so convenient for them to take bus to work. It is not wise for the government to make such a dicision.
Eva, Jinhua, PRC
I feel personally offended by large cars - with a single person - in them. Given that such people apparently do not possess mental faculties to switch to more economical solutions (smaller car, car-pooling, or public transport), the only way to solve the problem is to tax them till it hurts.
Hellen, NY,
Here in the US we are taxed on everything a number of times. City tax, county Tax, state tax, and Federal Tax. Just like the UK those in charge keep looking for ways to put more money in their pockets. Down with the Al Gores of the world and anyone whoe thinks as he does.
Bert, Charlotte, NC, USA
Labour doesn't care about people in the countryside... They make cars ludicrously expensive, but where I'm from there's not even a bus service. Do they expect us to spend our lives at home, or to scrimp and save for a taxi just so we can go out? This is why Labour does so badly in the countryside.
Lucy, Suffolk,
When Blair took us into the Iraq war I said then that we would see Tax and other money grabbing tricks proliferate in the next few years in order to pay for it all. Well here it is now.
The only escape is to leave the country like thousands of other Brits who have realised the mess we're in!!
Nigel Bailey, Wicken, UK
Consider this,
Running a PC server with a 400w power supply for a year has the same carbon footprint as a Range Rover sport which does 15,000 km per year
It only costs £12 to offsett a tonne of CO2
This is just extra revenue from a government who have never managed to balance the budget.
John, newbury, berkshire
Another trick up labour's sleeves, old environment excuse.
When would the working class realise that labour is simply after our hard earned cash (all of it, if we let them).
Come on hard working people out there, stand up to this greedy labour government before it is too late, overtaxed and skint.
S. Benslimane, Swindon, Wiltshire
It has been mentioned by a loads of people that we should stand up to this daylight robbery, or we are finished. I know this much, if Labour win the next general election we have had it for sure. Tax will continue to rise even further until we can barely afford to survive. Why don't we take them on?
Paul, Barnsley, UK
Ian, Leeds. I note that you live in a city, with public transport and all your needs provided for in a short distance. What of thos people that don't? One bus an hour, with work and shops being 8 miles away, there is no alternative to the car. Preach to someone else.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
Wanted, 10,000 motorists willing to give up their cars drive them all to London and abandon them in whitehall and surrounding area. The government seem to have forgotten the will of the people.
Paul Gibbons, M.Keynes, UK
Road tax should also be based on annual mileage, for greater accuracy and to give us incentives to drive less.
If you're running an older car, it's sensible to save for the next one anyway, before the git dies on you. It's not the tax I worry about, it's the inevitable MOT failure!
Donna, Middlesex,
I either walk or catch public transport to reach my destination, and I firmly believe that many car users drive unnecessarily. If people dont like getting taxed for polluting air that is for everyone to breath and damaging our environment then they should give up their cars.
Ian, Leeds, England
ved and fuel tax should be minimal, but you should have to display an insurance disk. getting the dangerous idiots off the road would save enough fuel to let the rest of us drive in peace.
any persuasion to drive less must come in the form of alternative transport.
jem, london, uk
yet another tax that screws the poor bloke, i changed to veg oil, a safer cleaner fuel for my diesel, but what do you know now that costs about the same as diesel, when is this country going to get a break, no matter what we do we get taxed
steve, derby, uk
this false green agenda is ludicrous. this is the same prime minister that gets driven around in a Jag with a fleet of enormous cars behind him. this is the same government that is allowing the rapid expansion of HEATHROW...do you have any idea how much commercial plane's CO2 emissions are?
Alex, London, England
Phil Hughes, Oxford. The price of gas would be a lot higher as well, or is it only those with no access to mains gas that you wish to get at?
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
Haulage Companies, Farmers, 4X4 owners and the ordinary bloke with a vehicle who's getting shafted by the Looney Labour Lot, WHERE ARE YOU ?
WE, the British people are not making enough noise for Gordon Brown to hear, rattle your cages LOUDER !!
Mind you dont get caught with your pants down Brown
Pete, Hampshire,
Its time to leave this tax hell hole, take your money else where more worth while!
MM, Manchester, England
Burning fuel to heat houses releases exactly the same amount of CO2 as transport, but attracts virtually no tax. If the real motive was green, the tax on a litre of fuel oil to burn in your boiler would be the same as a litre of road diesel.
Phil Hughes , Oxford,
The reason I bought a sports car is, because I now use public transport for 99 percent of my travel. I only drive around 2,500 miles a year in my car. Why should I be expected to pay triple that someone who owns a slightly smaller car but chooses to use it to drive 25,000 miles a year. The only fair solution is to simply absorb the car tax into the cost of fuel, that way also stops the practice of people not paying for their vehicle tax and saves a fortune in issuing the stupid disks in the first place. Oh well ill probably kick public transport into touch and start getting some use out of my car and increased car tax.
david c, manchester, uk
Buy more economical cars and save money !
Buy a desiel, I have, I get 40mpg even with short city driving.
I have cut my monthly fuel bill from £120 to £80.
Small Cars are often safer than large 4x4, or MPV, see NCAP ratings.
The Mini has 5 stars. Chrysler Voyager only 2 and Nissan Navara 1!
William , Nottingham, UK
Given up holidays, pub etc for exponential council tax. Nothing more to give up. Budget leaves £20 per month and Gordon has just arranged to grab that too.
61% petrol tax? Don't forget we pay for it with money that has already been butchered by NI and income tax.
Most painless suicide pls?
Dave, Selby, UK
"Another BROKEN PROMISE" Oh dear I must have missed something. Can anyone tell me what promise Brown has not broken? The NHS, single sex wards, Education, Referendum, Tax, cars, etc., etc.....
And the excuse: "it was not explicit" I suspect that this was simply DELIBERATE.
M. Cawdery, Portadown, Co. UK, EU.
What can we say about Gordon Brown and the Looney Tunes party regarding vehicle tax rises ?
Prettywell unprintable i should say, and that must be the general feeling across the country.
This Labour Party CANNOT be allowed to carry on hammering the motorist to fund it's own coffers !
Pete, Hampshire,
Having a lot of children or multiple houses to shuttle between are the outcomes of choices made. Why should exceptions be made for people who are short of cash and have taken on unaffordable liabilities? It may come as a shock, but all those lavish benefits you get have to be paid for.
Colin, shrewsbury,
I earn much less than average helping vulnerable adults living in the community at much less cost than them being in hospital care. I love my job but thanks to Gordon, my old car is becoming unaffordable to run due to VED, fuel increases etc. Housing/food likewise. Must emigrate! Thanks New Labour!
Edinburgh guy, Edinburgh,
Once the high CO2 cars like mine have all gone the tax will very rapidly rise again on all those "green machines" out there. Bide your time! They need the money from road tax and will have to greatly increase the tax on these low CO2 cars soon enough. The greenest car will be £200 year to tax soon.
Andrew, Dunfermline,
Get on a motorbike! less emmisions less traffic congestion cheap road tax cheap insurance lots more fun, if we all rode bikes there would be no preoccupied halfwits in cars pulling out of junctions either so less accidents!
L Lynch, Prestwick, Scotland
This has nothing to do with pollution or emmisions. This is about trying to steal, yes steal back money from the population to try and pay off a ridiculous debt that has been racked up, supposedly on our behalf by Brown and his cronies
This government is doomed but they are taking us with them.
Graham, London, UK
i have 5 children aged between 11 and 2 i need my citreon synergie and it costs me a fortune to keep petrol in it i understand about the co2 emmisssions being high but i think i dont should be penalised for having to have a big car when i clearly need one
helen gosling, wolverhampton, west midlands
Doesn't Brown realize that because of the pathetic and unsafe public transport system, partticularly outside major cities, people have to drive to get to work. This extra cost on top of unreal petrol prices makes it very difficult view brown with any credibility.
Orla. , Cheshire, I'm
I have just bought a 2000 Porsche. Loads of fun, loads of CO2 and thanks to the new tax cheap to run too !! I also own a 2000 Lexus RX300 which is practical and thanks to the new tax cheap to run too.
Buy old CO2 monsters for the next couple of years until these shortsighted people get kicked out
Azad, Harlow, UK
this and some of the highest petrol/housing/food/transport prices in the western world and one of the worst medical systems. way to go socialists...you need to tax this country blind to feed this monster of a welfare state you created. by by brown!
Alex, London, England
I taxed my car the other day, just £35 for 12 months ! It's group 4 insurance so really cheap to insure and it returns 70 mpg. Sports suspension, sports brakes, all the toys. It's fast, frugal and fun and looks like this http://www.allvehicles.co.uk/185.jpg Back Of The Net !!
Barry, Derby,
I was about to sell my freelander, and move to a more frugal motor. Now the value of my car has fallen by 50%, forcing me to stick with the freelander!
Also this government must understand the impact of it's decisions and have nothing but contempt for those who voted for it.
D Stockton, Cardiff,
And you won't be able to get a loan to buy a new car with lower road tax..... A lack of joined up thinking here!!
John, Colchester,
One more nail in Labours coffin.
john, Llandeilo, Wales
I fully support the principle that the polluter pays, but how can this road tax increase be anything other than a "stealth" tax. Surely, the most logical approach is to increase fuel duty so that the car buyer can make an informed decision.
BO LEE, WIRRAL, UK
I am on maternity leave at the moment, if I become a stay at home mum the tax credits will give me 4k a yr more. Given that I was only on 7k a yr, with this and the car/fuel taxes(try dropping 3 kids off at different places and then go to work)mean GB policy encourages me to sit at home on benefit.
ali, leyland, united kingdom
If this were France there'd be uproar - people would take to the streets. And we just sit and take it. Where are the RAC and AA? Aren't they supposed to be sticking up for us overtaxed motorists?
Piet Summerfield, Carterton, UK
"but hopefully it will hit the big gas guzzling 4X4 drivers. "
Matt Wilson of Sheffield, you're showing total ignorance on the effect of this - if you look at the majority of cars which will be affected they are normal family saloons e.g. 2.0 petrol Mondeos etc and this will hit many families hard
Alan, Northampton, UK
Maybe the goverment should consider this as a road tax option...
Cars upto 1500cc £80-00p per year RT with no exceptions.
1501cc to 2500 cc £160-00p per year RT.
2501cc and above £240-00p per year RT.
A sensible system which would work......
KEN S, SEDGEFIELD, DURHAM
It seems typical of a government that has no morals to consistantly target the less well off. Road Tax is just one issue, the 10p tax rate is another. et al
The sooner this government is toppled the better.
It is unfortunate however that a new party will inherit a can of worms.
Ron Marsland, Sale, Cheshire
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This country is losing it's appeal more and more each day.
70%+ tax from our goverment on petrol. Why arn't we out in the streets protesting!
There nation of fear they planned is now in full effect, people dare not even protest.
USA more guts!!!
Andy, England, UK,
Don't forget road charging will be next!! Get ready to start walking or buy a horse.
Ian, bolton, lancs
I think the system is quite unfair. It should apply to cars less than 3 or 5 year olds not 7!
However, I drive a landrover registered in January 2001 so I pay less than half of the tax that a car resisted on march 2001!
Amrik Thomas, Oxford, UK
I dont understand why the UK has to pay so much tax on pretty much everything, it just proves our government isnt interested in helping its people its just interested in generating money for itself. Why arent the Americans being penelised like us? they produce far more CO2 than any other country!!
Jim, Cambs, UK
If you believe that the changes to the rates of car tax are unfair please sign the following petition:-
petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED/
The King Report commissioned by the Government stated that the average car on the road in the UK has an emission level of 181g/km (Band J - £260 in 2009-2010).
David Hammond, Luton, Bedfordshire
Only one thing for it, I'll have to cancel my pension, so that I can afford the extra road tax, petrol tax, 10p tax, council tax, tax tax, and tax!
Nigel, Bedford,
its amusing to find that people still think its a 4 x 4 tax. when will people stop blaming the 4 x 4 for global warming, stop listening to media hype and scaremongering and wake up and realise that when the government have kicked the 4 x 4 off the road, they will then pick on their little mini.
hazel, rochford, england
I'm a 68yr. old. Own a 2nd hand Honda HRV. Bought because my previous car was too low and began to trouble me due to lack of agility, so finding difficulty getting out of the car. I live on a small income and feel gutted at this swingeing tax increase which I can't afford. What a grossly unfair tax.
Anne, Southport, Merseyside.
Well the labour party's ratings will probably drop as quick as the value of these large capacity old cars - If that's any comfort to those affected. So much for the people's party.
joe, London,
We should all just drive around in untaxed old cars clogging up westminster. If we have enough people they won't even have enough tow trucks to take them away or impound them. I mean they are worth next to nothing now so might as well leave them outside Chequers.
joe, London,
Well i'm screwed, was going to trade my big Y reg 4x4 in for a 1.6 zifara, but now they won't offer me anything for it, best is a £1000 where as last month it was £4000, so I guess its backfired, excuse the pun I will continue to run it and warm up the country.
Pat, Lincs,
like to see gordon brown in a smart car with wife and kids!!!!!!!!!!!,instead of a 4.5 litre jag
jason chorley, bath, uk
Is there a web site to work out how it affects one's car (well one's wife's, I'll be keeping the 1996 Merc going for a while longer)?
Tim , London, UK
More tax, more stealth and more deceit from a government that excels in all three things. Wouldn't to hard to accept if we could see value for money, but all we see is waste and arrogance on the part of a government that has lost touch, no priorities and no common sense!
James, Epsom, Surrey
Well done Mr Brown, another ppolicy to increase CO2 production with the need to increase new car manufacture.
If you were really serious about public transport you would promote carrots for us to use the busses/train not a huge stick by pricing us off the roads.
Time to consider emigration!
steve williams, Northallerton, england
How typical of our sneaky devious Government . Honesty?...they don't know the meaning of the word.
judy, Liverpool, England
We have two cars, a low CO2 diesel that we use regularly and a higher emitting older estate car for when we need the space. So with this hike on the older car we will probably sell one. Not the older one but the low c02 one - we cant fit everything into it!
Well done Mr Brown, increased pollution!!
Ian Smith, Kineton, Warwickshire
WOW anouther tax what a suprise, I'm trying to buy a house this year but if the taxation keeps on going the way it is there is now way i will ever be able to afford it, I am seriously thinking it might be worth moving to a diffrent country one that dosent bother imposing green taxes on you.
pete, southend, uk
Why did Gordon Brown cross the road?
There were no cars left to run him over.
Charles Siu, London,
Dave in Bristol asking what tax we'd cut:
Why not simplify the system? Maybe it would be cheaper to administer than all these stealth taxes too.
I suppose politicians won't because they don't want people to see how much they are taxed when it's in one or two places.
Richard, Leeds, UK
So, another hit on the motorist, if you consider the 2 main purchases are house and car, both taking in 80% of a persons wages that leaves 20% disposable income to live on, what the hell are the goverment thinking about with another hit? you can only squeeze a sponge so long before its dry!!!
KEN S, SEDGEFIELD, DURHAM
Lets just hope the goverment have a turn round and reduce a few taxes in the next budget, for Gods sake, how much does it really cost to keep a politicians child in UNI?
KEN S, SEDGEFIELD, DURHAM
Utter dishonesty from a Government that does not know what it is doing.Ridiculous that older less efficient cars will be taxed at a lower rate! Another consequence will be less well maintained cars on the road as overtaxed drivers will pare back on the servicing to offset the tax hike!
Peter,Glos
Peter Rampling, Cheltenham,
Ive been a stauch supporter of Labout for many, many years, today i changed my vote
I'm sick of our so called politicians grabbing steath tax from me.
Oh, bye the way, i didnt vote Tory either. I would much prefer to vote for the Monster raving part
graham, Cardiff, UK
This is just another Labour tax for them to waste on yet another of their follies.
I have a 6 year old mercedes which will get clobbered - the tax will not induce me to sell it as I cannot afford a newer "greener" alternative.
Perhaps I join the milions of motorists who pay nothing?
Alan Southampton, Southampton, Hants
If the government is so concerned with emissions they should get rid of the speed bumps, not only do they increase Co2 but I'd like to see how much impact they have made to the NHS - probably more people with neck and back problems. Instead we end up paying more tax for the guise of being green.
Alex, Cwmbran,
Gorden originally said that the car tax increase would not be backdated so that people could make an informed (Green) purchase. Then he slipped it in probably thinking that it would be after the (bottled) election. Guess what: it is going to hit just before the next election now!
R Green, Bolton, UK
We need a consumer strike - buy only basic foods, don't spend or travel unecessarily. Government pockets will be hit hard when the economy takes a nosedive - they will then see the voter power and we will see chnages
Adrian Jones, Whitehill, UK
This country is heading for the state it was in 1979 when Labour was last in power. Huge financial deficits, public sector expenditure out of control, continuous tax rises, militant public sector unions striking.
New Labour politicians, who have never had a real job, and the only thing they have ever run is their expenses claims and they cant do that properly, are taxing us into a recession.
Paul, Lincol, England
Another sly move by Brown that will cost him votes
Including mine!
Ian Harris, Marlow, UK
I do not understand how cars registered before 2001 can be any less polluting than those registered after this date
This will hit families who are already struggling to make ends meet, this is just another badly thought policy by this inept government.
chris norridge, oxford, uk
every time petrol or road tax goes up or congestion charge goes up etc etc all the great british motorist does is shrugs his shoulders and says "o well" ,,, then moans about being ripped off,,,,the french would drive all their cars into paris blocking the roads,,park up and walk off in protest!!
colin, london,
Looks like those Japanese look-alike VW Camper Vans with the supercharged 650cc engine are set to make a big hit in Congestion Charge London. Don't try to make sense of NuLabour's misguided legislation, just seek ways to negate it.
Andrew Milner, Karuizawa, Japan
Does anyone know what the tax will be on motor homes/caravans by 2010? They must compare unfavourably with a large car. Has this been announced in another 'annex' to the Budget?
Simon Askins, Leigh on Sea, Uk
Boy are we glad we do not live in the UK any more. There has to be massive demonstrations in the streets soon or have the British lost their backbones?
B J Deller, Marbella, Spain
PAY NO TAX AT ALL by using a decent BRITISH MADE 'historic vehicle' built before 1973 - there are good ones at nice prices, they're fine in modern traffic and as comfortable as you could want; plus you actually get the delight of real driving again! Mine's an uprated 1956 Austin A30.
Nick, Hoveton, England
when will the british people finaly find the backbone to stand up to a labour goverment who are driving this country into the ground,how many more lies and how much more deception must we have to take. 61% fuel tax how oppressive! food prices through the roof fuel prices rising daily.
Andy , birmingham, england
This is just another example of the highway robbery going on with this government, not a day goes past without another tax rearing its head and penalising the hardworking driver in this country!! maybe the government are trying to push all hardworking brits abroad, thats how it appears!!!
j bugg, ipswich, UK
We bought our family car in 2003 when I had not even heard the expression 'gas guzzler'. Unfortunately my car is now classed as one. I chose a Vauxhall Zafira so that a friend and I could take it in turns to do the school run - one car on the road, instead of two! petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED
Jay, London, UK
anyone want my car, please hurry before Mr Brown takes my shirt too,
Andy , birmingham, england
I love my '98 diesel Mondeo. I bet many drivers of cars registered after 2001 are die hard New Labour supporters. Now they're getting a taste of what the rest of us have had to endure for 11 years. Enjoy!
Kris, Fife, GB, not EU!
Andrew in South Croyden - living in rural areas isn't a luxury if you want to raise chickens, produce milk or any of the hundred and one other things that you get from your supermarket.
They are going up in price partly down to the rise in fuel and the cost of running the vehicles for transport
James, Glasgow,
At what point will the Brit's start a rebellion?
Will they wait until the shackles are placed upon their arms?
We Yank's aren't too far behind when it comes to an oppressive government.
Dave, Miami, US
Another comment from me,
Drop the VED to a minimum then put the tax on fuel, the more fuel you use the more CO2 you produce, the more tax you pay!
I have been cycling to work now for 4 months, saving i guess around £250 in petrol already but i'm now paying more tax to leave the car at home!
Ian, Swindon, UK
people should be up in protest, i know its only car tax but Labour are getting away with too much, bit by bit theyre ruining lives of hard working people for thier own benefit! we should have a labour strike day! everyone working not working studying not studying should just sit at home, go to no 10
MM, Manchester, England
It is unfortunate that the owners of these gas guzzlers have to pay increased tax, but it is of course necessary to get these cars off the road. We should applaud the Government for having the guts to take this unpopular but necessary action which will benefit the UK considerably in the short term.
Dave, London, UK
This road tax will lead to more cars on the road without a tax disc and of course no insurance. Stoll Mister Brown and Mister darling wanted the rich to prosper and the poor to go away, they are getting there.
C Darken, Nantwich, UK
If the government are worried over the enviroment issues of today, then now is a fantastic time to make a stand for Great Britain.Simply cancel the European Championship Football final in Russia which would save all those flight emmissions. Direct it to England, as two English team in final
Sorted
brian, Manchester,
All of the carbon in the emissions of internal combustion engines comes from the fuel burnt. Cars that emit more CO2 burn more (taxed to the hilt) fuel. Higher rate VED bands are simply a rip-off as the government isn't bothering to invest the extra VED in developing more fuel efficient engines.
Mick, Cardiff, Wales
Are those figures right? £210 in 2008 is £300 in 2009 then £310 in £2010. The £430 2010 figure is in the next tax band up.
And what is a Hyundai Lantra? You mean Elantra yes?
JD, Worthing, England
Illusions, Illusions! A Mini Cooper S emits more than a VW Touareg. Manufacturers know that more tiny fuel efficient death traps will sell quickly at a cheap price so go on! Flood the market with more future scrap metal! What about the eventual disposal of these mini menaces?
Jono Jack, Alaro, Mallorca
"Poorer families who need a bigger car ... will find their car has lost up to £1,000 of its value. "
Presumably there will be as many poorer families who will pick up similar cars for £1000 less! They can then use the saving to pay the road tax for 3 years.
We need to use less fuel - end of story.
paul, sheffield, UK
I really can't believe this
Its beyond the joke just how much were taxed in this country. I wouldn't mind paying this tax if it went back into our transport infrastructure and to improve general road services.
We all know however that almost nothing goes back into services this country needs
Stephen Allen, Bracknell, England
Yet more tax income for an incompetant government. This government has no regard for making Britain a "greener" nation it is just another way for the treasury to cash in. Everyone knows that driving is not so much a pleasure but a necessity in this day and age, Families hit hard yet again !!
Mark Websper, Margate, England
This is as badly thought through as the 10% tax fiasco. This tax change will not serve to further any eco-objective and has no intellectual basis. Does anyone in the treasury actually apply a common sense last check of tax rules before they are implemented.!
chris, portsmouth, UK
I just recently purchased a 2001 4x4 to tow my new caravan. If I had known about this stealth tax I would have purchased 2000 model. Between this and fuel tax thats the end of caravaning. both are now worthless. Time to start flying and "Increase" my carbon footprint. ROBBERS! GO VOTE!
Paul Henery, Glasgow, Scotland
With a 3rd of the budget being spent on Social housing, they need to get it from somehwere. so why not tax what everyone needs? fuel/car.
i think the government wants everyone to be on social housing claiming dole.
I think i could do a better job running the country lol.
Nathan Devine, London, England
Oh well, its time to use my 3.2lr sports car as a daily driver and make the most out of increase road tax. no point in keeping this car in garage and saving miles as the price of the car will be dropping dramatically.
KKr, Nottingham,
Labour are a bunch of criminals plain and simple and they should be removed from office by any means as soon as possible.
Simon, Nottingham, England
i have a 33 year old Reliant Robin which despite having covered 300,000 miles still returns 60 mpg and cost £90 to fully insure and £60 to tax. It does not have a catalytic converter so does not emit CO2. It doesnt rust and I can fix it with a spanner. British design and manufacture
d harvey, portsmouth,
This government needs to be ejected as soon as possible. They squeeze ever increasing amounts of tax out of working people and families then waste it all on their egotistical follies, bolstering big business, banks and the rich.
I sincerely hope a poor result today will hasten a general election
A Harris, Kettering, UK
So now it is prudent for me to keep my old CO emitting car
Mike, Gravesend, England
The new tax bands make sense for new cars sold. They will encourage new car buyers to buy more efficient cars. This will benefit used car buyers as these cars come onto the used car market in a couple of years time. It makes no sense at all to retrospectively apply the new bands to existing cars.
Mark A, Gloucester, UK
The science isn't proven but the tax keeps on coming. If the government and the civil service weren't so wasteful, incompetent and lazy then we wouldn't be wasting so much money on a bunch of complete chimps.
We need wholesale change at all levels, or this won't stop until the UK is ruined.
Ross, Ripon, UK
After the loss of the 10p tax band, this is another tax on the poor who are unable to afford a more modern, lower tax car, but will be expected to pay ever more tax on their older family runaround. I never thought that Labour would be anti-poor, but they are now the NASTY Party.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
we have a 14 year old car which we always intended to drive into the ground. it may have higher carbon emissions but it is much more environmentally friendly than trading up every couple of years when one considers the huge amount of energy/water required to manufacture a new car.
ana , london,
I emailed the treasury and downing street when this was announced in the budget, Asking if it would apply to all cars registered after 2001 6 emails I sent in total and never got a single reply to any of them. and the Press knew about it but sat on it till now Censorship is alive and well in the UK.
Joseph, Hull,
Why is it that a lot of people living in rural areas do not seem to be able to understand that doing so is a is a luxury not a necessity? I would love to live somewhere rural, but couldn't afford to run the car needed due to the very limited bus services.
Andrew, South Croydon, UK
Running a high emission car 16000 miles per year for five years still causes less harm to the planet than buying a new, low emiision, car and leaving it unused in the garage for one year.
The cost to the environment of scrapping all the old cars that have now become worthless will be immense.
Mike Poulsen, Reading, Berkshire
65% of cars on sale in 2001 fall into the top 2 categories for taxation.
(source - Jan 01 vehicle emissions data downloaded from gov web site).
Is this really addressing the problem vehicles or taxation of the masses? The figures speak for themselves.
DR, Glossop,
If this government were really serious about climate change how come they have the mobility scheme? Isnt giving cars to people INCREASING co2? No matter whether these cars are newer and supposedly fuel efficient, isnt this just a total hypocrisy?
Stephen, Durham, Durham
These poor people with their old cars probably voted Labour!
R Tomas, Preston, UK
Just another tax on the poor by a government that is determined to lose power at the next general election
michael, london,
...and Gordon Brown complains that Mugabe ruins economies - this is inflation boosting - another tax grab - and a wholly illogical plan in its alleged purpose. SAD MAD and BAD
pete, london, UK
The whole thing is nonsense.
All the greens saying how wonderful the road tax is, you are missing the point.
A far more efficient tax (which would use less paper and so save trees) would simply be to tax FUEL. Labour did not do that because they prefer stealth and bureaucracy.
Pete W, Bristol, UK
Again... the little guy who can least afford it pays for the sins of big gov and big biz. When will the people in-charge step up to the plate and assume responsibility for their poor leadership and complicity in crimes against their own?
D Griffing, Naples , Long Beach
If the next Government want's vote's, all they have to do is say they will scrap this "Dick Turpin" car tax and then drop the price of fuel to under £1. I would vote for them!!!!
Ron Kennedy, tattershall, England
Let them eat cake Marie Antoinette (lost her head)
Let them buy new cars Alistair Darling (will lose election)
C Rance , Reading ,
We've had 10 years of dishonest budgets, where the real facts were hidden in press releases, only discovered days later.
This particular tax is an evil. Governments should not treat tax as a way to punish the population, but purely to raise revenue for the public benefit.
Roger, Ipswich,
Wrong ! You can be sure the Thai motor dealers will be over in the UK soon to buy up these vehicles at bargain prices as Thailand also has steering wheel on the right.
This trade happened in 1998 in the opposite direction when UK dealers flooded in the buy up cars in Thailand at bargain prices.
dave black, bangkok, Thailand
I keep reading about all these taxes imposed by the Labour government and how it is sooo unfair. The answer is simple; elect a Tory government and then just wait for them to reverse all these unfair taxes....and wait .... and wait ...and wait.....
Al, Weybridge, UQ
Let's get rid of this myth, please, that these are 'Green' taxes. Very small amounts of money are hypothecated for conservation. Motorists' taxes are used to pay the government's pension bill. Check out the numbers..
Jonathan Spencer, London, UK
Hey Sam,
you try driving from Maidenhead to Slough in a Rickshaw.... what's the price of petrol per litre in Shanghai.... bet you its not £1.15! Even the communists know now that taxing the life out of people chokes off prosperity. why can't our old red Gordon get this this through his skull
paul, MAIDENHEAD, UK
When is the fickle British public going to get some backbone and stand up? Also, let's actually hear Cameron state categorically that he'll do away with these and other taxes if elected.
Hamad Lone, London, England
If bigger second hand cars are going to become very cheap then large families should have no problem replacing their cars when they give up the ghost.
jules, Sheffield, UK
Time to consider a greener and more cost effective solution particularly where both partners use the train to work. Rent or lease cars for weekend use to travel and see friends and a big weekly supermarket shop. Do the calculations and include depreciation, licencing, insurance etc or emigrate !
Brian Gazeley, Knysna, South Africa
"The new higher road tax will particularly penalise drivers who have fuel-hungry cars but do low mileage."
and yet when road pricing was proposed you were up in arms about it.
Maybe we should have free petrol free road tax and no tax on car purchase. That'll be fair
Pete, Edinburgh,
This road tax is so wrong!! How do 'normal' families all fit into supposedly cleaner cars that are not big enough to carry them. Come on you Brits... we can't tolerate this abuse from those bunch of noddies anymore. They simply have no idea what real life is... all they know is TAX this, TAX that..
Walter, Bracknell,
its extraordinary..the uk seems to beleive that the Govt have a right to tax them at every turn and not provide them with any decent services in return.. this is another case of govt leaping on the conveniant green bandwagon in order to raise cash..pure and simple. its pure opportuinism.
zugerman, zurich, switzerland
Tax, more tax, yet more tax. Then lies. Is that really the only idea these people have? Make them poorer so they can't choose? Waste billions on poorly conceived projects. Let soldiers die and be wounded, for life, because they don't have effective equipment. Truly the monkeys are running the zoo
Chris, London,
I have a nice big gas guzzler and will still use it! I travel a lot of miles and don't want to drive a small cramped car. Put 10p on a litre of petrol and scrap road-tax! Most greenies probably don't drive and never will - and anyway the world is beyond repair so leave us poor motorists alone!
Jason Day, Bury St Edmunds,
Unfair tax indeed! Don't buy the CO2 global warming con. Scientists now say the earth has not warmed up for 10 years. Sign the petition on the No.10 website link:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED
This Government won't be happy until they have stealth taxed every last penny from us.
Rod Tracey, Birmingham, England
Another tax!!!! In most civilised western countries the government is interested in protecting its citizenry, nurturing them etc...
Only in the UK is the government hell bent on subduing and penalising them...
'I vow to thee my country...' - Pah!!!!
Alan, Northants,
Combustion engines produce CO2 by burning fuel; the more CO2 produced, the more fuel is burnt. Fuel is already taxed to the hilt in this country, so why is it necessary to add an extra tax burden in the form of banded rates of VED? Oh yes, Alastair Darling has now got to find another £16 billion....
Mick, Cardiff, Wales
I'm prepared to pay extra for driving a fast car so long as it irritates the global warming zealots.
Rod, Birmingham, UK
If you don't like this, you know what to do today. Use your vote. Let us start making the changes we need
paul, preston, lancs
Dear CA from Manchester,
You have go it all wrong !
what this government is doing is letting the rich get richer and the middle and lower income householders be drawn into poverty with the combined increase in cost for food,vehicle fuel,heating,council taxes,bin taxes etc.
John , Keighley, England
Labour seem to have forgotten that the Law of Unintended Consequences can be neither ignored nor repealed. But, what else would one expect of that lot.
Dennis Eagan, Colorado Springs, USA
The value of a lot of cars will be dictated by how much petrol there is in the tank.
stephen hulton, eure, france
Why do people feel so dependant on cars? Humans survived for centuries before vehicles were invented but to read the papers now you would not think so. A car is a luxury, a big thirsty one even more so. Don't cry because you bought a thirsty car a few a years ago, when we knew CO2 was an issue.
Sam, Carlisle,
Interesting to see so many moaning about taxes on cars and petrol.
But no constructive comments.
If you want lower fuel and car taxes, please tell me which taxes you will raise for the loss of revenue from reducing these taxes, or which public services do you intend to cut?
Dave, Bristol,
I believe there was a sytem in place where you could claim if your property was blighted and unsaleable because of a new developemant - could this be applied to the loss of value to cars ?
Ace, Cheadle Staffs,
It may be hard to swallow but no one really cares about global climate really. Hopefully people will think twice before buying vehicule. We have to decrease the use of cars all around the world Now! Go anywhere around the world you will find this distinctive smell of petrol! So Sad!
Yann, LDN, UK
If this tax is intended to reduce CO2 emissions, it won't do very well - has anyone calculated the CO2 cost of replacing the fleet of large cars made after 2001? Of course not.
William McIlhagga, Ilkley,
Tax the cars even more and expand public transportation. We need that also here in the US.
Jon Maynard, Lansing MI, USA
My wife and I are shift workers who live in the countryside and have four children. We are thoroughly sick of being taxed to death by this grasping 'Labour' government who have avidly exploited the new religion of global warming to help feed their insatiable appetite for our money.
Conrad Auten, Dover,
It will come to the point where only the wealthy can afford to pay the taxes and the fuel for their cars.
Thank you Labour, well done!
And for the argument that this will stop the petroholic cars; large families need large cars. Labour should hit the industry with demands, rather than the consumer
Elizabeth, Edinburgh,
Road tax is so unfair and out of date now-it has no direct relation to CO2 output. Increase fuel duty and abolish Road Tax-simple!
Ross, Liverpool, UK
Its a tax grab by this anti car two faced government, absolutely nothing to do with the environment. I agree there should be taxation for buying and selling vehicles.
Still paying £400 per year for tax is very much cheaper than buying a new/newer car. I maintained car should last 15years plus.
Guy, Plymouth, UK
There are too many cars. - have to be reduced in the interests of all. To tax poorest people hard and not provide alternative transport is simply not acceptable. The road tax must affect all equally and be based on use not simply ownership.
roger, Arundel, West Susex
If I could afford to tax my car, afford the tax to fill up, afford the congestion tax to drive to the airport, afford the tax to fly, afford the VAT... I'd leave.
37% direct taxation and another 10-15% by stealth.
Own goal Mr Brown Darling.
Truly Fedup, London, UK
Bigger, faster & heavier cars take up more space and/or cause more pollution. these owners should pay more or change. However, a further increase in Fuel Tax is the fairer and most proportional way to tax everyone naturally for each mile they drive and for how much pollution they are causing.
dean robinson, battle, uk
What's this? This. I found it in my pocket. Oh I recognise it because I've seen it before: it's Brown's hand taking more of my hard earned.
Jon Miller, Leyland, UK
I have an old big car doing 2000 miles pa for family holidays only. I have an old but highly economical car doing 45 MPG covering 12000 miles pa commuting. Am I going to pay two lots of outrageous ownership tax? Certainly not. I'll sell the small car to pay for tax and use the big one every day.
Ian, Manchester, UK
Isn't the world 4 billion years old and gone through many changes in climate such as ice ages etc?
Then why again, should the UK motorist be blamed for the nonsense of global warming?
BROWN: CHINA, INDIA & THE USA NEED TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE TOO, NOT JUST THE POOR UK CAR DRIVER!!!!!
Paul, West Midlands,
I have tried to find out how much revenue the government gets from each 'tax' they charge on us, but strangely that information is not available, or if it is not easy to find. Does anyone know how to find out revenue the government receives from each individual tax? That would help me understand why
James, Edinburgh,
Like the 10p tax ,this was all spin to give the impression that it was aimed at new Chelsea Tractors! More ex-Labour voters!
R James, Clifton, UK
This is not about saving the planet.How many other countries EU/worldwide are going to introduce such levels of taxation to protect it?.In many countries there would be revolt but here we just seem to put up with it.Labour no longer represent the working class.Jim of Acapulco has the right idea!
Steve, Kent,
The increased car tax will mean many more untaxed & uninsured vehicles
J Butcher, Leeds, UK
In France we scrapped road tax years ago, We are taxed when buying and selling cars, which is good as it is the manufacture and purchase of new cars that damages the environment.
We also pay for a good motorway network with tolls, which is fairer.
Pity Mc Brown cant look within the EU for ideas.
Peter Goddard, Le Rouret, France, EU
This has nothing to do with green issues, that is just the excuse. This is all about getting more money into the treasury by any means. Will the Conservatives redress this unfairness, road tax, fuel tax etc when they get into office? I haven't heard David Cameron say so.
Noel Dobson, York, N. Yorkshire
I don't agree with the Government squeezing every last penny out of us but hopefully it will hit the big gas guzzling 4X4 drivers. I have an '01 Audi A2 which fits myself, wife and 2 kids in (both under 2) with all their paraphernalia in and is very economical. More economical cars are needed!
Matt Wilson, Sheffield, South Yorkshire
10p tax, council tax rises: That is not enough. Once again Brown strikes at the poor who are more likely to be his own Labour voters. Own goal, own goal.
Derek Emery, Bedworth , UK
This really does confirm that Its Time For a Change.
James Sherwood, London, uk
I need to run a car but I use it sparingly. I walk to work (40 mins) and for most journeys. I use my 3.5 litre 1999 car once or twice a week at most, polluting much less than someone using a Prius daily. Logically, the way to tax is through fuel not standing charges - this only encourages more usage
Dave, Cardiff,
Road tax has no longer got anything to do with the roads, should be renamed to 'car tax for the people who can't afford a new car'. Has this government got something against people who are on a low salary. i might just go on the dole before long, i'll probably be better off!!!
Michael, Co. durham, england
Michael J. said: They dont care about us. I think, in this country, the politicians do not care about the low income citizens / residents, oh yeah, they care about themselves; Big luxury car, second home/house in the cities!!!!!! All of this under poor British tax payers. Ridiculous isn't !
Evancy H, high wycombe, UK
Increasing morgages, more debt, scrapping the lower rate tax - is this really the time to tax those who can afford it the least?
I know, here's a good idea - tax them more and give tax credits back. Money is obviously well spent making up more stupid rules and paperwork!
Katie, Reading,
Why not have a CO2 per seat tax regime so that MPVs, which carry more people and therefore have a lower CO2 emmission per seat, are not adversely affected?
By the way, haven't motorists already been heavily taxed on feul consumption?
Bill, London,
This will cripple community care assistants, and as a knock on effect, elderly and disabled clients will suffer. Does this government ever think about the effects it's ill-conceived policies will have on others? Or is it just bumbling along trying to appear "intelligent"?
Jennifer Hynes, Plymouth, England
10p tax rate abolished, taxes on old cars, it hits the lowest incomes hardest. This is New Labour as George Orwell saw in "1984". But when Labour taxes the rich they simply leave the country dont they? Remeber supertax in the 70's. We are paying for two oil wars so we tax the sitting ducks.
Nicholas Kulkarni, Kings Lynn, England
Backdating car tax, nice one labour. Why don't you run out country like a company, instead of treating it like a huge credit card.
Milo, swansea, UK
It seems OK then for this government to reach into your pocket and remove thousands of pounds of value from your old car, which you struggle to run anyway. Has the world gone crazy?
No it's just this grasping greedy administrtion, who cannot see the consequences of anything they do -VOTE THEM OUT!
David Nammory, Liverpool,
anyone interested in a strike,everyone down tools for a day,employed and unemployed,housewives,disabled ,bring this government to its knees.We have to make a stand to ensure a better and secure future.
Mo pooley, saltash CORNWALL, cornwall
There is no point just voting this Governmemt out. the others are just as bad. It is this Labour who brought this tax system in THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT !!!!!!. We have to force them to change it. MASS ACTION IS REQUIRED. Or just dont pay Tax ,MOT or Insurance. PEOPLE POWER WILL BRING CHANGE !!!!
sIMON, Bristol, UK
Tax Tax Tax!!!
Has no noticed the goverment have gone MAD? we seem to pay more tax and get less for it, or do you pay more for less these days.
I used to think road tax was paid for the upkeep of our road network but now we have more pot holes than ever, and more pointless white lines.
KEN S, SEDGEFIELD, DURHAM
This story links to that of business leaving the UK. Tis Government says one thing and does another. It cannot be trusted.
Will there be an "honesty" party at the next elections?
John, Cobham,
OPEC reckon the price of crude oil could be $200 by the end of the year which is about a doubling over a year. This also must be a negative factor for the price of second hand thirsty cars. The last time oil doubled over a short period was the oil crisis in 1973 which lead to a world wide recession.
Derek Emery, Bedworth , UK
It takes more CO2 to manufacture most cars than they will ever emit in their life. Therefore the most CO2 efficient car is your current car. This new system is just increasing consumption- the biggest driver of CO2 output. This law is about clawing your money away though, not the environment.
Ben, Oxford, UK
Propping up a failing economy by forcing people to buy new cars.. the second most expencive family purchace after a home..
ian, aberdeen, UK
Western style economies are very wastful of energy, and the best way to improve efficiency is to introduce financial incentives such as graded tax scales. CO2 is easy to measure and a good indication of fuel economy. I am in favour of the general principle - but the current prices are way too high.
David, London, UK
its impossible to understand how any tax linked to CO2 emissions can not be based on mileage driven. I have a high CO2 emitting car only drive about 3k miles a yr. my partner and I could buy 2 cars subject to no tax under the new rules, follow each other emitting way more co2 yet pay zero! madness.
r goddard, london,
Does anyone know how to set up an online petition on the no.10 website to oppose this ridiculous backdoor backdating of this tax? Should easily be able to get a few hundred thousand or more signatures and perhaps then they might realise what a complete mess they are making of things.
David James, London,
My October 2000 Jaguar S type is beginning to look a very good buy and I think I shall hang on to my L-reg Space Wagon for a long time yet. No matter how fuel efficient your new Prius may be you'd do less harm to the planet by picking up a well maintained more mature vehicle.
Terry Hamblin, Bournemouth,
I'm in the incredible position of loathing the Tories, but needing to vote for them in the next general election to rid the country of the pickpockets that reside at Westminster.
Labour have absolutely no empathy for the people they serve.
Simon, Carshalton, Surrey
Isn't this the whole point of the tax? If your car stops being economically viable beacause a two hundred pound road tax, maybe it shouldn't be on the road in the first place.
andrew, cape town,
Road Tax in Frnce is linked to the cost of fuel. The more fuel you use, the more tax you pay; it's as simple as that. You don't need an army of Civil Servants to administer it nor another army of Traffic Wardens to enforce it
Martyn Davies, Arzal, France
I think it's great. Good riddance to gas guzzling cars. Why are so many people moaning about this. You can't have your cake and eat it. If you want better roads, less pollution, better fuel efficiency and less dangerous accidents then something has to deter people from buying/owning those cars
Max, Manchester, UK
So what will be the effect on the environment by scrapping all these cars and making new ones?
Is there no common sense left in government?
Garth, Newport, UK
Good - precisely the way to drive much better fuel efficiency - scrap the gas guzzlers. And perhaps this will finally terminate the 4WD people who clog up our streets and lanes showing off their (non) wealth.
Richard, Newton Abbot,
Why can't they introduce a way of spreading the cost of Car Tax. You can now opt to pay for a TV licence by dirct debit each month, instead of forking out the lot all in one go. If they could introduce a similar system for Car Tax, I'm sure the amount of untaxed cars on the road would decrease.
Daz, Norfolk, UK
If we as a Nation donot stand up against this Government then we are finished. We all need to raise up and stand up for our rights to have a decent standard of living as they do in almost every other country in the world. The government use any excuse to make us pay more tax.
Mark, Truro, Britain
This is just the start of eco-taxation: as predicted, underhanded and deceitful. It has nothing to do with "saving the planet", but everything to do with "saving the Exchequer".
Dwight Vandryver, Scholar Green, Cheshire, UK
"perfectly usable cars will be scrapped, which could perversely increase overall CO2 because of the emissions from manufacturing new cars" - I don't think it's perverse, it's just the same old taxation and inflationary pressure, dressed up as environmentalism. Nothing to do with the planet.
mount, dorset, gb
Greedy Labour TAX, TAX, TAX and Twelve years of waste our hard earned cash in exchange for DOGMA.
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
Why is it that a lot of people do not seem to be able to understand that a vast number of this country's motorists NEED a car. They do not grasp that in the rural areas with very limited bus services a car is not a luxury it is a necessity.
Nick, Stafford, UK
There's no PROVEN connection between Co2 and GW.
The same loonies who said emphatically the earth was warming at an alarming rate now say it's cooling at least till 2014 - simply becausethe facts proved them WRONG.
Co2 /GW is the biggest scam every perpetrated by goody-two-shoes greenies. Spare us!
Dennis, Johannesburg, South Africa.
That's socialism for you! What's next, our houses?
Kris, Fife, Scotland
We were thinking of changing our old Galaxy this year, but now we'll just keep it till it falls to bits, or the kids leave home, whichever comes the sooner.
Bev, Bucks, UK
We are already seeing a downward trend in customers coming to our group of dealerships.
This increase in road and fuel tax is only going to make matters worse.
We already have a surplus of mechanics and salesmen that have been made redundant!
Another industry killed off by the powers that be!
Ian, Swindon,
I guess I'll be running my '95 diesel Golf for a while longer.
It's funny, I hear Dave Cameron saying "these taxes are unfair" but I don't hear him saying "I'll undo them". I don't know who wants to lose the next election more, him or Brown.
Mike, Brighton, England
This government is literally running its people into the ground. It wants everyone at the same level - the lowest one - and it will keep taxing and discriminating until it gets there. This government is deeply vindictive and hates the human trait of aspiration - except for its own of course.
CA, Manchester, UK
I expect it was all caused by 'global forces' or 'the credit crunch' or 'International forces' or the man in the moon. It certainly wasn't GB and his cronies!
Roger Angove, Falmouth,
With cigarette smokers being demonised at the moment don't forget the loss of tax revenue caused by fewer packets being sold. Once it becomes too expensive to drive what will fill the loss of tax revenue caused by fewer people driving?
Ian Jones, Reading, UK
Again this government is penalising the lower income citizens who cannot afford even the cheapest new cars as they are out of reach and will cause people to go into debt. I feel this country is more of a Police State than ever was my country of South Africa under the Nationalist Party.
Mike, ilkley, england
This will force more onto public transport which is a good thing... if not for the weak public transport infrastructure.
R, London,
Phil, Blantyre. We are charged by the amount of miles we do, as 75% of the price of fuel goes to the chancellor as duty and tax. VED is just another cash cow, as putting up the duty on fuel, again, is becoming politically inexpedient.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
Many people will balance any extra costs by avoiding them.
Expect a big increase in cars driven without MOT,Road Tax or insurance.
robert everitt, wolverhampton,
let's try to be rational please. don't assume that just because people can't afford to keep their old car that they will go and buy a new one, doh! They can buy a bike, go on foot, take the bus, scooter etc. We have to start somewhere, no one has the complete solution
sam, Shanghai,
I suggest remaining single, frget having kids and sell your car. That'll teach em.....
henry, London,
If the government were seriously "green" they would try to get people to keep their old cars. Even with their higher CO2 emissions it is better for the environment than making a new car, which has a very large "carbon footprint".
Martin, Newmarket, Suffolk
Is anyone remotely surprised?? These charlatans raided the public pocket remorselessly for the last ten years. What did everyone expect??
If they'd provided value for money they may have a platform to defend themselves but the only ones getting fat are their cronies.
BOOT THEM OUT TODAY!!
Pu Li, Guangxi,
I pay 30 pense a litre and drive a 5.2 litre V8 with enormous enjoyment. My road tax is about 50 quid and we haven't seen any rain since October.
Why whinge, all you have to do is move to Mexico.
Jim Hatch, Acapulco, Mexico
Surprise, surprise. People will have to buy newer cars, and which industries (amongst others) puts money into Nu Lab's pockets, the car and oil industries. Just another excuse to fill their own coffers at our expense.
Paul Downes, Milton Keynes, Bucks
When rover closed it doors to car manufacturing from that day the goverment can do as they wish to motorists as they know it wont have any impact on out car manufacturing jobs because they are all gone.The low earners hit again..Lets take this fight to the streets..MOTORISTS UNITE NOW..ACTION NEEDED
John A., Alloa, Scotland{soon free}
Another wizard Labour wheeze. I have an "L" reg Cavalier which predates the emissions tax hike. So rather than buy a newer, more fuel-efficient second-hand car I now have an economic incentive to keep my old banger on the road as long as possible. How will that help the environment?
richard, horley,
i think this road tax is wrong you should be charged for the amount of miles you do not by the size of car you have
phil, blantyre,
Electric powered cars will hold there value over time, simply because they use electricity. The car itself does not generate CO2 althoght the electricity consumed to charge its battery does. Buying electric cars will force the government to invest more in renewable energy sources.
Jim Wills, Brisbane, Australi
I cannot work out why people are so surprised. From day one of the labour government, they taxed every person with a hit on tax credit for shares. You all thought it only hit the rich. Well, it didn't and since they got away with it, they have been raiding your money ever since. Kick them out!!
Richard, Plymouth,
We had this same problem 232 years ago. We threw the government out and started a new one. It may be time to do it again. Unfortunately we have the same problem here, just not as bad yet.
Paul, Chandler, USA
Old cars are normally a better buy because the write down in value is slower so if the repairs are low you lose less, you should be able to keep a car until it is about 13 years old to get the full benifit out of it. This change makes a mockery of good economics which they say the poor must practice
Nick P., Camberley Surrey, UK
we all need to do somthing about this . what will hapen when we can't aford to run our cars because road tax and fuel tax? every thing will grind to a stop and then what will thay tax ? think about what you r doin lab!!!!!!! we as a family would love to have an incom £28,000, try living on 19,000
dave horrobin, carlisle,
This is typical of this Governments taxation policies.
All we can hope is that at the next election they'll get voted out!
The level of taxation increases this bunch have instigated are stunning, and what is even more stunning is us, the Great British public accept EVERYTHING they dish out!!
Steve Parry, Wrexham, UK
Future generations will examine the decisions made by Gordon Brown during 2007 - 8 with the viewpoint that here was a man that did not really want to be prime minister. If this is not the straw that breaks the camels back and leads to our Prime Minister's political suicide I have no idea what is.
Shane Carter, Derby, England
Next year? 2010?
Today, I had to retax my 2004 produced diesal Nissan for which I recieved the renewal notice 3 weeks ago and it didnt show the new costs.
The Post Office informed me that I had to pay more than the 'notice' indicated. Cant they get anything right?
Halfwits, all of them!
Phil Austin, RAUNDS, England