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The housing market slump could be over as soon as next year if the cost of home loans falls by a further half-point, a leading housing market expert told MPs yesterday.
David Miles, chief UK economist at Morgan Stanley, said that if mortgage rates stayed at present levels, an educated guess from sophisticated economic estimates was that house prices would fall by another 5 to 10 per cent and wipe a further £17,000 off the value of an average home before the market bottomed out next year.
However, Professor Miles, who previously has advised Gordon Brown, added that if a recent decline in the cost of mortgage funding continued, price falls could soon end.
Speaking to the Treasury Select Committee, he said: “If the cost of funding to lenders were to move down half a point, then the 5 to 10 per cent fall could turn into a much smaller number, or not much at all.”
As the latest figures on the state of the mortgage market were released yesterday, adding to fears of a much more severe housing slump, Professor Miles's comments offered some hope to homeowners of an early end to plummeting prices.
However, he also sounded a note of caution over the uncertainty surrounding market predictions. “There are a lot of risks that it could play out worse than that,” he said.
His forecast is more optimistic than those of many other economists, who forecast that prices will slide by up to 35 per cent before reaching the bottom.
In a separate report, Andrew Clare, Professor of Asset Management at Cass Business School, gave an even more dismal prediction, saying that house prices would slide by 40 per cent and that property values would not rise to 2007 levels again until 2023.
Professor Miles's comments came as mortgage lenders reported another dismal month in August, with the number of first-time buyers taking out a home loan plunging to a record low.
Only 15,600 mortgages were approved for those climbing on to the housing ladder in August, down 55 per cent from the same month last year, according to figures from the Council of Mortgage Lenders (CML). In a further sign of the seizure in the mortgage market, the CML said that gross mortgage lending had slumped by 63 per cent to £6billion.
The stalled housing market is also taking its toll on estate agents, who are struggling to sell one property a week. The average agent made just 11.5 sales in the three months to the end of September, the lowest number since 1978, according to figures from the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors.
The gloom over the state of the market was compounded when Bob Pannell, head of research at the CML, also appearing before the MPs, admitted that there was likely to be “further upward pressure” on repossessions from next year. Repossessions are set to rise by 50 per cent this year to 45,000, the CML says.
A further decline of 10 per cent in house prices would knock a total of £45,000 off the value of an average home, according to Halifax house price figures, taking the average property price to about £155,000. The average house price peaked at close to £200,000 last August.
Professor Miles added that once house prices had fallen to rock bottom, the number of transactions could pick up “quite sharply” as buyers returned to the market.
“There is a stand-off in many parts of the country between people who have got a house to sell and people who have got mortgage credit and they cannot agree on a price,” he said.
Other official figures, which are seen as a less timely measure of conditions in the housing market, showed a further 2.7per cent fall in house prices in August.
The Department of Communities and Local Government said that values of flats had fallen by 5.1per cent, while terraced properties had dipped by 3per cent, taking the average house price down to £211,410, 3.4per cent lower than in August last year.
Bank of Ireland withdrew its buy-to-let mortgage deals for landlords with less than a 25 per cent deposit yesterday. The lender is only offering two fixed-rate buy-to-let deals from today worth up to 75per cent of a property's value.
The three-year fixed-rate deal has a rate of 6.94 per cent with a 2 per cent fee.
It follows a similar move by Bristol & West, the fourth-biggest buy-to-let lender, which reduced its buy-to-let range on Monday.
Last night Bradford & Bingley, the nationalised lender, which specialised in buy-to-let deals, confirmed that it was passing on the full half-point base rate cut to borrowers on a variable rate.
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I love the supply and demand argument from some here. If that is what it is about, how come prices are falling? There are more people here now than 1 year ago, while building has allegedly ceased. Oh, that would be the credit cycle...it raised prices and is now causging them to crash!
Trevor, South east,
Would they be the same sophisticated techniques used by his and other banks to price all these "clever" instruments?:) And it has nothing to do with whether rates are 5% or 6%. It is whether people can even get a mortgage to begin with (and at silly multiples)!
Trevor, South east,
I am an estate agent - yes there is at least 1 left and I have sat through the worst 12 months of our history. That said we are experiencing 2 things - the cash vultures are now overhead and are beginning to take their pickings (havnt seen them for ages) and also the normal buyer is coming back.
Oscar Estcourt, Bristol,
That's good then, because an academic at Cass Business School (not idiots) in the Guardian said it would be 2023 before prices rose to 2007 levels. Who do you believe?
Austin Tassletine, South West , UK
The fact that Professor Miles previously advised our esteemed Prime Minister, goes most of the way to explaining the mess that we are in. The man has undoubtedly completely lost touch with reality. The only benefit of this sorry mess is that house prices are plummeting and will continue to do so.
henry, Southampton, UK
Supply and demand is all i can say! Myson just BOUGHT!! a house because rent isdead money .He got a good buy . Double income buyers will soon be itching to buy at a good price.Leave it too long and prices will be slowly increasing .Supply and demand is everything coupled with the fact we WANT to buy
andrew, leeds, w.yorks
Housing slump could be over next year... Mwwwaaaaaahahaha Thanks for the laugh !
Oliver, London,
Harry, London
So ---- buy in East Anglia - where prices are reasonable.
You can commute to Liverpool St. and then take the underground to wherever like hundreds of other folk!
Nuff moaning .....
lyn, norwich, uk
I am a small shareholder in Lloyds TSB, I will shortly sell my holding in this company and close all my accounts with them. Utterly disgusted in their management and the bail out of HBOS. Hope that all individual sharehollders follow this example.What we are now left with is communism.
Vini, London, England
It is better for the national 'psyche' to believe that house prices will rise again in the near future. So, let it be.
stephen conner, london,
An average one-room studio flat near me costs £350k.
No balcony, no storage, no outside space, no parking.
No separate bedroom or kitchen. No bath, shower only.
I have a TWICE the average salary, of 50k, 2 degrees and a lifetime of sacrifice and hard work.
SEVEN times my salary for 1 room.
Harry, London, UK
Despite the POM attitude of doom and gloom ( I am a POM by the way) and opinions of 'experts, consultants' etc talking the market down, house prices will level & then rise in the not too distant future (unless this is the end of the world). It is an inevitable consequence of supply & demand.
Steve, Milton Keynes, UK
Did this guy go to the same school of economics as Brown? Simple maths -
The average house price is in the region of £170k
Mortagages now require a 15% deposit = £25k
Therefore mortgage amount = £145
Average salary = £25k
Maximum Mortgage Available = 3.5 x Salary = £87k
Neil B, London, UK
I rather suspect that this "economic expert" has a somewhat blinkered view. Has he taken account of the probable 3 million + unemployed who will depress earnings and make houses even more unaffordable at the bottom end despite lower prices? Or maybe he's thinking only of the wealthy bankers!!!!!!!!
A.M. Williams, Stafford,
What planet do you live on?
Richard Lancaster, London, UK
Couldn't have been much of an advisor with the boom massively out of control in the first place...
cww, Suffolk,
Snap election in the spring!!!!!!
john, milton keynes,
Buyers borrowed beyond their means, inflating house prices then causing the current crisis where bank assets (house values) no longer covered lending. Even if you can afford to sit on your property holding out for a high price, you will be undercut by those who cannot. I wouldn't buy at 8X salary.
DanOxford, Oxfod, England
Professor Miles needs to only look at the declining fortunes of the UK financial services industry, global economic downturn and rising unemployment to get real and realise prices will fall for at least another 2 years and not recover for another 10.
Nicholas Bromley, Bromley, uk
Would you trust these guys to buy a car from let alone a house, as recent history has proved what do they know?
Dave Farmer, Broxbourne, England
What a reliable source!
Michael, London,
The giveaway is the weasel word 'could' - in the fantasy land of economic theory, all kinds of things 'could' happen, but in the real world, they're extremely unlikely. The trouble is, the likeliest outcome - falling prices for 2 or 3 years and at least 10 - 15 years to recover, isn't news any more.
Dean Hallett, Basingstoke, UK
The trouble is the professor is likening housing to the equity market,where anyone with a vested interest in sales of shares can tell their clients that it has bottomed ,and they will pile in like blind sheep,well houses arent like that and you cant fool any of the people any of the time anymore
david devonport, Great Yarmouth, UK
Some parts of the country (individual postcode sectors) have not had price falls at all, and some are still rising. So it is not strange to surmise that if credit conditions ease, price falls elsewhere can be slowed or reversed.
mac, Manchester, UK
If I buy a house at £100k I pay back the bank £200k over a 25 year mortgage. If I buy a house at £200k I pay the bank £400k over the same period. WHY is Brown so adamant that I must pay an extra £200 000 (or £833/month) to the banks instead of saving it or spending it in the broad economy.
Peter White, Brighton, UK
No wonder the banks have gone to the wall with predictions like that!
How does he think the housing market will recover in the midst of a recession next year and probably the next?
Fanciful.
JonB, Manchester, UK
Danny Wright: "Laura talks any FTB not touching the market for 2 years.Why? So they can buy at the bottom of the market and make a nice profit when prices go up?"
Or perhaps they just don't see any point in paying £150k for something they think they will be able to get for £100k in a year or 2.
Dylan, Rossendale,
"Housing Slump to End Next Year"? Does that mean we will miss out on 2009 altogether and go straight into election year 2010? Great. The we can get rid of Flash Gordon quicker.
albert hall, hove, england
Anybody who pays attention to anything these so-called experts say must be an idiiot. There is only one thing anybody needs to know is that The City is run by fools. I won't buy a house until the prices have totally collapsed. The lowering of interest rates is just a trap for more debt.
Frederick, London, UK
For house prices to "bounce back" one has to assume:that bank shareholders are masochists. Having seen their capital wiped out they are happy to recapitalise the banks just to see their money used to maintain insane lending criteria, maintain employment in the banking sector and pay out city bonuse
Ralph Feldberg, milan, italy
householders must suffer the bitter pill for their insidious for their insidious greed.they,the government and vile bankers have done down decent small shareholders and now fully deserve a catastrophic fall in house prices.a house is a home not a moneybox to feed ones greedy habit.
j r forsyth, braintree, england
Laura talks any FTB not touching the market for 2 years.Why? So they can buy at the bottom of the market and make a nice profit when prices go up? Cant you see this was the problem in the first place? Buy a property to live in it, otherwise your doing the same thing that got us into this mess.
Danny Wright, Upwell, Cambridgeshire
Where are there no flying pigs in the picture?!
Paul, Coventry,
If the chief economist at Morgan Stanley makes predictions like this, no wonder they are doing so badly.
Dan, London,
Would those "sophisticated economic estimates" be the same ones that led to a £500 Billion bailout of the uk banks this very last week, by any chance?
frank james, London, uk
The housing slump will end once prices have fallen back in line with historical levels of affordability, thereby bringing buyers back to the market.
Bil Noe, Piddle,
The next bubble will be manufactured by Brown for the 2010 election and go pop straight after. These experts are the same turkeys that talked up the last bubble. Anyway why rush into ownership? Taxpayer owns the banks, banks own the houses so we are all council tenents really! Even this dingbat.
Rafael, Swindon, England
I would have thought ,that UK "economists" would shut up for a while.
ronnie, bucks, UK
I understand Aussies have a limited understanding of irony; however, may I suggest the irony of the somewhat smug comments coming from down-under given the cost of housing in their own backyard. They seem to be somewhat oblivious of their high ranked status in the housing (un)affordability survey.
Colin the pom down-under, Torquay, Australia/England
Anyone who believes this crisis will be over in twelve months or so should seek medical advice!
Mike O Connor, Plymouth,
It's only a buyer's market if sales are actually being agreed at lower levels than they were previously. Supply is limited because any seller with half a brain is going to hold their house for now - when demand increases (as it will do soon, esp with shortage of new build), then prices will increase
MP, Manchester,
When will people realise that judging affordability by just one criteria, "can I afford the monthly payments?", is not sensible? The lifetime cost of housing is at an all time high. It is only sustainable by ever decreasing interest rates, ever increasing debt. And ever more bail outs. Just stupid.
Bob Jones, London, UK
House prices bear no relation to salaries and what people can afford. There needs to be a maximum lending multiplier for mortage lending and this housing bubble needs to burst, not be prolonged!
Harvey Taylor, Bangkok, Thailand
I just want to buy a house at a sane price. No person with an "important" job title of a failed bank is going to convince me otherwise.
Howard, Manchester,
The facts are these: house prices peaked in 1989 and didn't revert to the same level until 1998 (9 years). This crash is twice as bad, 2 X 9 = 18 and therefore prices will revert to the same level as October 2007 (the peak) in 2025. QED!
Alan Gold, London,
Thanks..Sherlock. No buyers due to crash fears and sellers sitting tight too. Guess the Morgan Stanley "whizzkid" is right about a stand-off in the housing market. Had flat for sale 2 mnths, no takers...rented out within a week. Mortgage still covered. Off travelling. You only live once. Go figure!
Abha, London, UK
Over next year? Come on! The party will be on again tomorrow!
Fabio C, London, uk
calling him professor does not impress anyone. your headline is optimistic based on the opinion of one person who himself is sounding caution and yet also includes several others saying far worse. why not have a headline that says: housing slump continues, one guy is cautiously optimistic, nuff said
pk, london, uk
So AN economist is optimistic but the article shows he is out of step with many others. The catchy headline does not match the overall tone of the piece which is far more balanced. How about 'Morgan Stanley - lone voice of optimism for house prices'
Paul, Houston, USA
Where is the money coming from to reinflate the housing ponzi scheme - I think it should pretty obvious to all (& even to those utterly clueless numpties at Morgan Stanley) that the Chinese and Middle East investors, who have financed the west's bubbles, have had enough
rick, melbourne,
Is this the same David Miles who became "Managing Director and Chief UK Economist at Morgan Stanley in October 2004".
The same Morgan Stanley who is one of nine banks to receive a share of the $250 billion bailout.
What a joke!
Nathan, Southampton,
Yvette Cooper wants lending to resume to 2007 levels and has refused to rule out 125% mortgages from the newly nationalised banks.
More boom on the way, just in time for the next general election.
Gareth Jones, Dusseldorf, Germany
More to the point why would we believe anything that comes from anyone who works in the financial industry or the government at all?
According to them only a year ago there was no risk of a shock to the system sending house prices down. We've been consistently misled by both.
Mike, Edinburgh, UK
Hilarious!! Chief economist at Morgan Stanley, a bank absolutely on its knees and the verge of collapse if it didn't take the parasitic reward-failure bailout a few hours ago??!!
Talk it up as much as you want, any smart FTB wouldn't touch the market for at least 2 years.
Laura Roberts, London, UK
First time buyers will not be given 125% or even 100% mortgages. First time buyers will require to have savings. Savings in the UK have dropped dramatically since 1997. So when will the housing market start to move. My prediction is as soon as Brown resigns we will see an improvement .
WSS, SANDBACH, U.K.
Yeah right, much tighter lending criteria: max 90% and proof of income for a mortgage! More propoganda from a chief economist at a company with a heap of mortgages on its books that doesn't want them to default.
Jon, London,
When markets settle down and lending normalises one should hope that lenders will start lending responsibly. We all know the root cause of the credit problems were caused by irresponsible lending and greed. One should hope the FSA and CML will strictly monitor the income multiples the lenders use.
Joseph, Kingston, UK
Why on earth would we believe anything from the mouth of the chief UK economist at Morgan Stanley!
Terry Evans, Wellington, New Zealand